Kommentare zu: Time Machine backups on network shares in Leopard http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/ Belanglosigkeiten aus meinem Leben Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:44:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 Von: Mohammad Al-Mumen http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-8837 Mohammad Al-Mumen Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:10:30 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-8837 Thank you so much for your detailed solution. I have a mac book pro and a the same brand of NAS storage. I tried it and it did not work from the first time. after long time investigation I found that the file created by time machine add "tmp" to the sparse bundle file name which does not work if you just use it. you have to remove the "tmp" from the file name and then it will work. the original file name which I used (since this is the name used by time machine) and did not work: computerName_macAdress_tmp.sparseBundle when I removed the "tmp" part from the file name and then follow up the rest of the procedure, it worked perfectly. The working file name: computerName_macAdress.sparseBundle thanks again. The solution works perfectly now. Thank you so much for your detailed solution. I have a mac book pro and a the same brand of NAS storage.

I tried it and it did not work from the first time. after long time investigation I found that the file created by time machine add “tmp” to the sparse bundle file name which does not work if you just use it. you have to remove the “tmp” from the file name and then it will work.

the original file name which I used (since this is the name used by time machine) and did not work:

computerName_macAdress_tmp.sparseBundle

when I removed the “tmp” part from the file name and then follow up the rest of the procedure, it worked perfectly. The working file name:

computerName_macAdress.sparseBundle

thanks again. The solution works perfectly now.

]]> Von: Rolf http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-8335 Rolf Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:56:21 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-8335 Hi! Thanks for this hint! It helped me a lot! For me it was interesting how to use this with my existing backups, so I wrote it down here: http://rolf.haynberg.de/?p=83 Regards Hi!
Thanks for this hint! It helped me a lot!
For me it was interesting how to use this with my existing backups, so I wrote it down here: http://rolf.haynberg.de/?p=83

Regards

]]> Von: Battambang http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7778 Battambang Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:33:00 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7778 Hallo Flokru! Thanks to you, I now have TM backups working to a linux/netatalk server. Un grand Merci! Hallo Flokru! Thanks to you, I now have TM backups working to a linux/netatalk server.
Un grand Merci!

]]> Von: Elliot http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7726 Elliot Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:08:47 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7726 Fantastic post! After lots of trouble with "Disk image could not be created" problems, this has got my system working brilliantly. Thanks for your time in writing this. Fantastic post! After lots of trouble with “Disk image could not be created” problems, this has got my system working brilliantly. Thanks for your time in writing this.

]]> Von: Joachim http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7467 Joachim Fri, 30 May 2008 08:06:06 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7467 time-machine funktioniert nach Ihrer Anleitung, kommt aber jetzt (seit ich den Leopard 10.5.3 Update installierte) mit einem Fehler: "the backup disk image could not be mounted". Ich benutze eine Lacie Ethernet Disk Mini (250GH). Gibt es einen guten Rat? time-machine funktioniert nach Ihrer Anleitung, kommt aber jetzt (seit ich den Leopard 10.5.3 Update installierte) mit einem Fehler: “the backup disk image could not be mounted”. Ich benutze eine Lacie Ethernet Disk Mini (250GH). Gibt es einen guten Rat?

]]> Von: AndrewD http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7430 AndrewD Tue, 27 May 2008 15:01:17 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7430 I suffered a logic board failure on my iMac G5, so I needed to do a full restore - for real! You'll be pleased to hear that Migration Assistant running on a new Intel iMac (7,1 hardware) successfully read the time machine image from the network. One thing held me up for a while: I needed to mount the sparsebundle image manually first, so that Migration Assistant could find it. After that, it was a breeze. Only thing was, I had to restore my old account using a new username (migration assistant gives this option), as I'd already created a user with the same name. Minor problem though, compared to getting all my files, folders and settings back. I suffered a logic board failure on my iMac G5, so I needed to do a full restore - for real! You’ll be pleased to hear that Migration Assistant running on a new Intel iMac (7,1 hardware) successfully read the time machine image from the network. One thing held me up for a while: I needed to mount the sparsebundle image manually first, so that Migration Assistant could find it.

After that, it was a breeze. Only thing was, I had to restore my old account using a new username (migration assistant gives this option), as I’d already created a user with the same name. Minor problem though, compared to getting all my files, folders and settings back.

]]> Von: Turbo Fredriksson http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7413 Turbo Fredriksson Mon, 26 May 2008 09:39:35 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7413 Just one note: The MAC address mentioned is (always!) the ETHERNET MAC address! No matter if you're backing up via the Airport... Just one note: The MAC address mentioned is (always!) the ETHERNET MAC address! No matter if you’re backing up via the Airport…

]]> Von: ipguy http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7284 ipguy Tue, 13 May 2008 00:30:40 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7284 when i create the sparse image on my desktop and then move it to the SMB volume, when time machine starts a backup, leopard creates a disk image, mounts it ansd starts the backup. should that be happening ? why is it creating a disk image on my desktop ? when i create the sparse image on my desktop and then move it to the SMB volume, when time machine starts a backup, leopard creates a disk image, mounts it ansd starts the backup.

should that be happening ?

why is it creating a disk image on my desktop ?

]]> Von: Andy Max http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7014 Andy Max Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:18:15 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-7014 Solution with disk utility doesn't work in principle. I have 200G Macintosh HD - one partition. When I try to create "New Image" it gives error "Unable to create resource busy", suggestions? Solution with disk utility doesn’t work in principle. I have 200G Macintosh HD - one partition. When I try to create “New Image” it gives error “Unable to create resource busy”, suggestions?

]]> Von: Corey http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6810 Corey Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:38:53 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6810 So I got it working...you're right that it's more of a network problem than a TM one; I tried it with SuperDuper and had the same problem. What finally worked was to do the initial TM "dump" using a wired connection. Now it's working fine wirelesly! So I got it working…you’re right that it’s more of a network problem than a TM one; I tried it with SuperDuper and had the same problem. What finally worked was to do the initial TM “dump” using a wired connection. Now it’s working fine wirelesly!

]]> Von: flokru http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6778 flokru Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:27:29 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6778 I have installed it myself on our MacBook. Backups are still working. And it seems to me (I have not looked into this in detail) that Mac OS X is smarter in starting backups. After a longer period without backups I have noticed OS X starting a backup just after the network share became available (the hourly backup was scheduled for a later time). I don’t know whether this has anything to do with the update though. I have installed it myself on our MacBook. Backups are still working. And it seems to me (I have not looked into this in detail) that Mac OS X is smarter in starting backups. After a longer period without backups I have noticed OS X starting a backup just after the network share became available (the hourly backup was scheduled for a later time). I don’t know whether this has anything to do with the update though.

]]> Von: AndrewD http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6773 AndrewD Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:31:02 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6773 Hi, I notice that Apple has an update available titled "Time Machine and Airport Updates" version 1.0. Does anyone have experience of installing this, and does it affect behaviour for those of us using Time Machine on a (non Time Capsule) network share? Hi, I notice that Apple has an update available titled “Time Machine and Airport Updates” version 1.0. Does anyone have experience of installing this, and does it affect behaviour for those of us using Time Machine on a (non Time Capsule) network share?

]]> Von: How to put a Adobe Lightroom catalog on a network share | Andre Crone - Elysia Productions http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6736 How to put a Adobe Lightroom catalog on a network share | Andre Crone - Elysia Productions Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:09:34 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6736 [...] But Lightroom refused to create a catalog on my Linux server. Bad news since I have a lot of free space on the server and less on my laptop drive. But then I thought of a simpel solution. I read on the internet how to to make Leopards Time Machine with a Sambashare. You can find that article about Time Machine and Samba shares here. [...] […] But Lightroom refused to create a catalog on my Linux server. Bad news since I have a lot of free space on the server and less on my laptop drive. But then I thought of a simpel solution. I read on the internet how to to make Leopards Time Machine with a Sambashare. You can find that article about Time Machine and Samba shares here. […]

]]> Von: Time-Machine-Backups auf Netzwerkfreigaben unter Leopard auf flokrus Blog http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6665 Time-Machine-Backups auf Netzwerkfreigaben unter Leopard auf flokrus Blog Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:00:59 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6665 [...] (Note to English speaking readers: Also available in English.) [...] […] (Note to English speaking readers: Also available in English.) […]

]]> Von: flokru http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6660 flokru Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:34:01 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6660 @John M: I have read the support thread you mentioned and I think I do now understand the problem. However, it is a little sophisticated so I wrote <a href="http://www.flokru.org/2008/03/15/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-2-possible-problems/" rel="nofollow">a separate article</a> about it. @John M: I have read the support thread you mentioned and I think I do now understand the problem. However, it is a little sophisticated so I wrote a separate article about it.

]]> Von: Time Machine backups on network shares 2: possible problems auf flokrus Blog http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6659 Time Machine backups on network shares 2: possible problems auf flokrus Blog Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:30:46 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6659 [...] article refers to a predecessor article concerning Time Machine backups on network shares in [...] […] article refers to a predecessor article concerning Time Machine backups on network shares in […]

]]> Von: flokru http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6647 flokru Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:55:22 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6647 @EKYM: That’s strange. So you don’t see any previously made backups in Time Machine at all? In this case it is definitely no problem with the Spotlight index but rather a problem with Time Machine itself. In my case when the index was broken I could see old backups but I couldn't use Spotlight in Time Machine. If I searched for a file that definitely existed in a previous backup Time Machine just did find it. If I chose the backup manually (because I knew where the file was) I could see and restore the file. @Michael J: Did you create the sparse image on your local drive or on the network share? @John M: I already restored several files with Time Machine over the network (although I have to admit that I only restored files I created only for the purpose of testing Time Machine). After repairing the Spotlight index even the search works perfectly. It is too late for me (around midnight here) to understand the problem in the thread you mentioned completely (I will look into it later). I have not yet experienced any problems with free space. Regarding my logs post-backup thinning (i.e. Time Machine deleting old unneeded backups) does work and frees up space in the sparse image. However, I agree with this (from your link): <blockquote>In any case, I would advise any SMB mounted partition Time Machine user to NOT rely completely on those backup.</blockquote> Time Machine over network is better than no backup at all. However, you should always be aware that it is <i>not</i> officially supported. Anyway, even a Time Machine backup on an external drive does not fulfill requirements of a really secure backup solution. @EKYM: That’s strange. So you don’t see any previously made backups in Time Machine at all? In this case it is definitely no problem with the Spotlight index but rather a problem with Time Machine itself. In my case when the index was broken I could see old backups but I couldn’t use Spotlight in Time Machine. If I searched for a file that definitely existed in a previous backup Time Machine just did find it. If I chose the backup manually (because I knew where the file was) I could see and restore the file.

@Michael J: Did you create the sparse image on your local drive or on the network share?

@John M: I already restored several files with Time Machine over the network (although I have to admit that I only restored files I created only for the purpose of testing Time Machine). After repairing the Spotlight index even the search works perfectly.

It is too late for me (around midnight here) to understand the problem in the thread you mentioned completely (I will look into it later). I have not yet experienced any problems with free space. Regarding my logs post-backup thinning (i.e. Time Machine deleting old unneeded backups) does work and frees up space in the sparse image.

However, I agree with this (from your link):

In any case, I would advise any SMB mounted partition Time Machine user to NOT rely completely on those backup.

Time Machine over network is better than no backup at all. However, you should always be aware that it is not officially supported. Anyway, even a Time Machine backup on an external drive does not fulfill requirements of a really secure backup solution.

]]> Von: andy fisk http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6640 andy fisk Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:17:34 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6640 using steps above -- but when I went to backup backups failed and I got a console message saying that it couldn't create cookie .{mac address of machine}, I connected to my linux box switched to the timemachine directory touched the .{macaddress} file and chmoded it to 777 (might be over kill). Backup is running happily now. using steps above — but when I went to backup backups failed and I got a console message saying that it couldn’t create cookie .{mac address of machine}, I connected to my linux box switched to the timemachine directory touched the .{macaddress} file and chmoded it to 777 (might be over kill). Backup is running happily now.

]]> Von: John M http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6633 John M Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:37:17 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6633 Thanks for this information. I am very curious if somebody already tried restoring data from this because that's what we're all doing it for. Also, part of this solution (with the TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1) is going around the net for a while. I was about to use it a while ago but then run into several issues from people saying that it's OK until the drive fills up and Time Machine cannot delete the old backups (as it should). E.g. see: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5918065#5918065 Anybody tested this? Thanks, John. Thanks for this information. I am very curious if somebody already tried restoring data from this because that’s what we’re all doing it for.

Also, part of this solution (with the TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1) is going around the net for a while. I was about to use it a while ago but then run into several issues from people saying that it’s OK until the drive fills up and Time Machine cannot delete the old backups (as it should). E.g. see:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5918065#5918065

Anybody tested this?

Thanks,

John.

]]> Von: Michael J http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6624 Michael J Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:27:02 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6624 I tried the same, after the backup failed on a Thecus N4100. I get the error message "function not supported" when I try to create a sparse image. I have the feeling it's an ext3 filesystem on the Thecus N4100 (tried a 200 char filename: no problems). But since someone reports that he got his mac backed up to his linux box, even that should work!?!? Any other tips? THANKS alot -Michael I tried the same, after the backup failed on a
Thecus N4100. I get the error message “function
not supported” when I try to create a sparse image.
I have the feeling it’s an ext3 filesystem on
the Thecus N4100 (tried a 200 char filename: no
problems). But since someone reports that he got
his mac backed up to his linux box, even that should
work!?!?

Any other tips? THANKS alot

-Michael

]]> Von: EYKM http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6576 EYKM Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:24:33 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6576 Thanks. But when I was done, the problem still persist. I don't think that was the problem. I started Backing up Three days ago but whenever I enter Time Machine, it still show _Today, Now_ there is no way to go backwards in time -- Just the now. How does that happen? Thanks.
But when I was done, the problem still persist. I don’t think that was the problem. I started Backing up Three days ago but whenever I enter Time Machine, it still show _Today, Now_ there is no way to go backwards in time — Just the now. How does that happen?

]]> Von: flokru http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6573 flokru Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:48:23 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6573 I can do that, but I won't be able to do so very soon. You can try if you understand <a href="http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flokru.org%2F2008%2F02%2F17%2Fspotlight-index-unter-mac-os-x-wirklich-zurucksetzen%2F&langpair=de%7Cen" rel="nofollow">Google's attempt</a> to automatically translate it (but I doubt it, Google Translate just does not work very well yet). In short: After deleting .Spotlight-V100 on the drive/image via <pre>rm -r /Volumes/<volume name>/.Spotlight-V100</pre> run <pre>mdutil -E /Volumes/<volume name></pre> (both in Terminal with root privileges or via sudo). Hope this helps for now. I can do that, but I won’t be able to do so very soon. You can try if you understand Google’s attempt to automatically translate it (but I doubt it, Google Translate just does not work very well yet).

In short: After deleting .Spotlight-V100 on the drive/image via 

rm -r /Volumes/<volume name>/.Spotlight-V100

run 

mdutil -E /Volumes/<volume name>

(both in Terminal with root privileges or via sudo). Hope this helps for now.

]]> Von: EYKM http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6571 EYKM Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:53:05 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6571 I have a complete backup but as you said before, "At first (in my case) the Spotlight index was broken." you only have the instruction German, do you think you can translate it to ENGLISH for US, English speaking people. Thanks and really appreciate you for your work. I have a complete backup but as you said before, “At first (in my case) the Spotlight index was broken.” you only have the instruction German, do you think you can translate it to ENGLISH for US, English speaking people.
Thanks and really appreciate you for your work.

]]> Von: flokru http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6560 flokru Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:02:51 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6560 @Corey: That's strange. This never happened to me. Though I have to admit that I made the first backup over Ethernet to save some time. I don't know the reason for your problem, but if you ask me it sounds like a general network problem and not a Time Machine problem in particular (although actually I really can't tell). @Corey: That’s strange. This never happened to me. Though I have to admit that I made the first backup over Ethernet to save some time. I don’t know the reason for your problem, but if you ask me it sounds like a general network problem and not a Time Machine problem in particular (although actually I really can’t tell).

]]> Von: Corey http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6558 Corey Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:55:24 +0000 http://www.flokru.org/2008/02/29/time-machine-backups-on-network-shares-in-leopard/#comment-6558 thanks for the info! I got it working using the instructions above, but have hit a problem. After a period of time (hours, and gigabytes of data), the connection shuts down. Airport says I'm connected, but I can't connect to the internet or my network shares. Have to reset the Airport to get connected again, and then my backup is incomplete. thanks for the info! I got it working using the instructions above, but have hit a problem. After a period of time (hours, and gigabytes of data), the connection shuts down. Airport says I’m connected, but I can’t connect to the internet or my network shares. Have to reset the Airport to get connected again, and then my backup is incomplete.

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